Despite my pounding headache, read your comments on united front Mongolian LGBT and just had to add my dime. All through the 1960s when the Gay Liberation Movement started in the West, the most important efforts for the betterment of the LGBT community were always initiated by lesbian groups, joined later by gay groups. All the progress in the West in terms of LGBT rights could not and would not have happened if there were no such united movements. Do you, Mongolian dyke or gay guy, wanna live in a society that recognizes your sexual orientation and deems it as valid as heterosexual and grants you the right to marry your same-sex partner (like in Belgium, Spain, Canada, Holland, Sweden, Norway)? Do you wanna be able to adopt children or have access to artificial insemination? Do you wanna live free of fear of persecution? Do you, Mongolian dyke or gay guy, wanna hold hands in public with your lover, kiss your lover and show other signs of affection and love for that one someone who means the world to you?..... Of course yes-yes-yes-yes!!! Right?! Then, fucking get off your fat asses and start doing something about making it happen! Don't fucking sit there and wait till the world changes, the world doesn't change on its own, you need to give it a kick in the gut, a slap in the face, a thrash on the head to make it change! Sorry for verbal violence, but this is exactly what I feel like doing to the LGBT people in Mongolia (we the ones outside are at least OUT) when I see that LGBT people in other countries had been in the same situation as us only couple of decades or years ago, but who have found courage to stand up and say "Yes, we are gay! Now, we want our rights!" and who were granted rights, while Mongolian homosexual people and friends of mine just lurk in their fucking stinky closets and whine, just sit in there and whine!!!! Do you think one day god sent a genial idea to the presidents of those countries to pass laws allowing homosexual marriages?! Do you think one day prime ministers of those countries woke up and decided "OK, I feel gay today! Let's pass the law allowing parental rights for gay people!" WRONG! LGBT people in those countries had to FIGHT to get the rights they have now. And it's time we started raising our voice and stating our case as well. Absolutely agree with you, Webdyke, united movement is what needed in Mongolia! SO FUCKING WAKE UP, YOU MISERABLE DUDES AND DUDETTES STUCK IN YOUR CLOSETS, AND GET OUT THERE!!!!!!!! My fucking head is hurting real bad... Ok, anyway.... I said what I had to say.