Queer Mongolia Монгол ЛГБТ Онлайн

Энэхүү орон зайг Монголын ижил хүйстэн эмэгтэйчүүд, гей, транс хүмүүс болон бидний найз нөхөд, бидний эрхийг дэмжигч хүмүүст зориулан ажиллуулж эхэллээ. Бие биеэ хүндэтгэн үзэл бодлоо хуваалцана уу. Space for Mongolian lesbian, gay and transgendered folks and our friends and supporters. Respect respective differences!



The Conference

International LGBT Human Rights Conference of the First World Outgames was really busy, with 38 workshops happening at one given time. It was a bit, maybe more than a bit, let me 'fess up, confusing, but I made my way through to the workshops I was interested in attending. (The picture is taken during the opening dinner of the conference, which was graced by many high-level Quebec politicians as well as the UN Human Rights Commissioner, Louise Arbour. On stage: Rosanna Flamer-Caldera and Philippe Braun, the co-chairs of the ILGA World.)

Our workshop panel on East Asian Democracy and LGBT Rights Mainstreaming had speakers from Indonesia (Djoni), Mongolia (me) and the Philippines (Anna Leah Sarabia), with the chair Rosanna Caldera-Flamer, the co-chair of the ILGA international (from left to right in the picture). Although not many people turned up for our workshop due to Robin Tyler's stand-up comedy workshop that was happening at the same time, the relevant people were there and they were happy with our presentations, I believe.

Ah, it was an honour to be asked to go on a float together with the Gay and Lesbian Asian Montrealers (GLAM) by Alan Wong, GLAM director, for the Pride Parade on the evening of July 30th, but unfortunately as I was leaving on the 30th morning, I had missed my opportunity to go on a pride float, would've been my first!

Met many interesting people during the conference, and even had a beautifully unexpected and moving meeting with one of my gay brothers from India who has been there for me with other lesbian and gay friends of mine when I was beginning to come out in 1997. (The picture: workshop on Sexual Diversity in Asia - panelists are from Canada/Thailand, Japan and India.)

The closing plenary of the conference was graced by the sporting dykon Martina Navratilova, who delivered a speech reminding everyone to make a will to contribute to not only their parnter's well-being, but also to the community.

The First World Outgames Opening Ceremony

Now, the opening ceremony of the Outgames at the Olympic stadium of Montreal was just mind-blowing. On the stage, Martina and someone... (I didn't get his name, but he's an Olympic champion out gay man) are reading out the Montreal Declaration. I was standing among the Germans with a newly acquired friend, Jackie, from the US, based in Tokyo, just a couple of metres from the stage, and right at the railing of the side stage, so we had a great opportunity to see kd (!!!!!!!) from real up-close!

Here she is, kd, prancing around on the stage! It was amazing to finally see her after a decade of loving her voice and her songs. A beautiful free spirit!!! kd said that it was going to be a good year for human race, and I agree with her, and would go on to say that it is indeed going to be a better place for all of us thanks to these kind of events that gather all people from all over the world to create and foster equality, liberty and freedom.

Here is kd again! She's singing "Ms. Chatellaine" in this pic.

Around Montreal

There are many other things worth mentioning, but at this point, I will stop here to let you have a look at the pics yourselves and understand why I said "Wish you were all there!". The pics below are just pics of the Palais de Congres in Montreal and around Montreal.

Palais de Congres in the evening.

Inside the Palais. The elevators are going up to the plenary and workshop halls.

Outside the Congress Palace, during my smoke-break.

Palais de Congres from another colourful angle.

Viger Square had an event every night. My hosts (well, at least one of them) and their friends - now my friends as well - we all went to the disco night of the Viger Square on July 28. The crowd energy was great, but I was too tired to stick around, so went back to sleep early.

Viger Square. Disco night.

My host and friends go to a disco night at Viger Square.

Famous LGBT people who took part in the Conference:

Georgina Beyer, the first transsexual Member of Parliament in the world, New Zealand, making a speech on the plenary on Asia and Pacific. Lovely woman!

Justice Kirby. Out gay Supreme Court judge from Australia.

Ashok Kavi Rao, the Indian trail-blazer on gay discourse.


Reply to question where we find each other

As you might know already, there are many community "gathering spots" in Ulaanbaatar. If you're a gay man, you can start networking with the community through the Zaluus Eruul Mend organization that works on health aspect of the gay male community in Ulaanbaatar. If you're a gay female, in other words, if you're a lesbian, there are no official "gathering spots", the only space for Mongolian dykes is the http://www.mongodyke.org.mn website so far.

As for living without a girlfriend in a gay woman's case, or a boyfriend in a gay man's case, I think it depends from person to person. Some queer people from 1950s or 1960s had said in many documentaries that it was not until the age of 35 that they had their first lovers... Celibacy is no fun, though.

I hope it answers your question sufficiently.

From Anonymous

Anonymous said...

How do you find each others in Mongolia,near the turtle monuments?
Is it hard to being without sex if you don't have long term partner?

9:08 PM


From Anonymous

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4:35 PM

From Anonymous

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7:15 AM

From Queermongolian

Hey i think u guys should check this website out
www.mongoldyke.org.mn MONGOLDYKE ROCKS!!!
i think this is really helpful website how people accept homosexuality in Mongolia.
I was watching this TV show called YAHUU(it is a little tacky) talk show on www.ubs.mn i believe it is aired on 6.17.05 and they were talking about homosexuality in Mongolia.From my point of view people there @ talk show seemed like really SUPPORTIVE except for that Hostess of that show sounded so homophobic!!!
And i tot it was pretty interesting so check it out!

COME OUT AND COME OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry i this was supposed to be an email to that mglb @ yahoo group:)

3:31 PM

From FireButch

Despite my pounding headache, read your comments on united front Mongolian LGBT and just had to add my dime. All through the 1960s when the Gay Liberation Movement started in the West, the most important efforts for the betterment of the LGBT community were always initiated by lesbian groups, joined later by gay groups. All the progress in the West in terms of LGBT rights could not and would not have happened if there were no such united movements. Do you, Mongolian dyke or gay guy, wanna live in a society that recognizes your sexual orientation and deems it as valid as heterosexual and grants you the right to marry your same-sex partner (like in Belgium, Spain, Canada, Holland, Sweden, Norway)? Do you wanna be able to adopt children or have access to artificial insemination? Do you wanna live free of fear of persecution? Do you, Mongolian dyke or gay guy, wanna hold hands in public with your lover, kiss your lover and show other signs of affection and love for that one someone who means the world to you?..... Of course yes-yes-yes-yes!!! Right?! Then, fucking get off your fat asses and start doing something about making it happen! Don't fucking sit there and wait till the world changes, the world doesn't change on its own, you need to give it a kick in the gut, a slap in the face, a thrash on the head to make it change! Sorry for verbal violence, but this is exactly what I feel like doing to the LGBT people in Mongolia (we the ones outside are at least OUT) when I see that LGBT people in other countries had been in the same situation as us only couple of decades or years ago, but who have found courage to stand up and say "Yes, we are gay! Now, we want our rights!" and who were granted rights, while Mongolian homosexual people and friends of mine just lurk in their fucking stinky closets and whine, just sit in there and whine!!!! Do you think one day god sent a genial idea to the presidents of those countries to pass laws allowing homosexual marriages?! Do you think one day prime ministers of those countries woke up and decided "OK, I feel gay today! Let's pass the law allowing parental rights for gay people!" WRONG! LGBT people in those countries had to FIGHT to get the rights they have now. And it's time we started raising our voice and stating our case as well. Absolutely agree with you, Webdyke, united movement is what needed in Mongolia! SO FUCKING WAKE UP, YOU MISERABLE DUDES AND DUDETTES STUCK IN YOUR CLOSETS, AND GET OUT THERE!!!!!!!! My fucking head is hurting real bad... Ok, anyway.... I said what I had to say.

3:17 AM


Guestbook @ Ardice experiencing problems

It's unfortunate to announce that the Mongoldyke guestbook hosted at the Ardice has been experiencing server errors. In case the guestbook with its entries is still intact after this problem is over, we shall make the guestbook available again at the Mongoldyke site.


PS: Many thanx to the girls who dropped by to leave their messages on the guestbook! Yay!!! We thrive!

PPS: Thanx to people who commented on the website contents, am working on changes!

Welcome to Queer Mongol!

I'm a strong believer that the Mongolian LGBT community as a whole needs not only visibility for the public acceptance of our identities, but also unity within itself – unity within the lesbians as well as unity of lesbian group(s) with other queer groups and non-governmental organizations in Mongolia. Since 1999 advent of the LGBT grassroots organizing through the milestone Tavilan Org, there had been a few sporadic efforts to provide services and information targeting the entire LGBT community, one of the first and last ones, perhaps, the Tavilan LGBT hotline that operated between November 2000 to February 2001, on which I had the privilege to work with other comrades-in-arm, B. and Z., my gay male friends, who since have gone onto other engagements in life, but one of whom is still involved in the gay male community organizing informally. Another officially registered Mongolian non-governmental organization, Youth for Health, has been functioning since May 2003, primarily targeting gay men and MSM's sexual health. It is very sad to see and recognize the fact that since Tavilan, there had been no united LGBT rights oriented officially registered NGO, if one discounts the community group MILC. The brief rise and fall of the Mongolian Lesbian Information and Community Center (MILC) in 2004 has seen enormous ambition on the part of the founding members in its goals aimed at providing safe space, comprehensive library, bilingual website, documentation of Mongolian LGBT situation, archiving of oral history and campaign for the LGBT human rights and civil liberties in Mongolia through printed and electronic means. However, the community group's funding ran out after eight months and due to absence of committed lesbians to carry on the cause that is directly related to our lives as gay people in Mongolia on the whole, the MILC now remains as a virtual NGO/community space through the mongoldyke website and its mailing list. Had MILC been able to sustain its physical activities, the Center would have continued the worthy cause of united Mongolian Queer Movement that was initiated by Tavilan in 1999. Most certainly, Tavilan in 1999, Youth for Health in 2003 and MILC in 2004 all constitute turning points in gay history of Mongolia and milestone efforts to begin writing gay chronicles. However, as I said before, as a queer community, we still need to realize the political importance of cooperation with various segments within our own very various, queer community(ies), whereupon we shall be able to fight for our dignity and acceptance in Mongolia in one strong, unwavering voice. This is a blog created by me, Webdyke/O.N.A., for all queer identified Mongolians to enable each and everyone of us to have a say in determining what's important to us as a whole, what we need to do now and in future to gain our visibility, dignified and fearless existence in Mongolia, where our challenges, weaknesses and strengths lie, what our concerns, both personal and political, are, where our hearts and dreams are. It is time some of us, who pretend to be apolitical, but who, in fact, are into petty personal delusions of megalomania and power play, got a life and saw the truth: we, as Mongolian LGBT, can bring about much needed change in society only through united action and agenda! I hope other queer folks of Mongolia do join this effort to create the first community blog and post their opinions, events, announcements, etc. Welcome home, welcome to your own queer space!